Transcription of Eva Rose Goetz for the show Beginnings #1
Dr. Lisa: Yes. I feel truly blessed to be amongst such a creative group of individuals and I know that we’re going to send this message out into the world and people are going to listen and join our community and become part of our tribe and all good works will be done. I’m so happy to be joined today by Maine Magazine wellness editor Genevieve Morgan. First segment we called them Maine Magazine Minutes.
Genevieve: Hi Lisa.
Dr. Lisa: Hi Jen. How are you?
Genevieve: I’m fine thanks. Thanks for having me on today. I am thrilled to be here today because I’m talking with Eva Goetz who is the owner of PatchaWorks in Plymouth, Maine and a wonderful healer in our state as well as a shaman and my column in the October issue of Maine Magazine is all about energy medicine. Energy medicine has probably been one of the lesser known and lesser understood modalities of alternative and complementary medicine but Eva’s here to tell us a little bit more about it. What she does and how it works. Welcome.
Eva: Thank you. Thank you so much for having me and thank you Dr. Lisa. Thank you Genevieve. It’s a pleasure to be here. So how can I help?
Genevieve: Well I think we’re all wondering when somebody talks about energy, it’s a very loose term and I know that when I talk about energy medicine, I get a lot of rolling eyeballs and cuckoo signs around people’s foreheads and I’m wondering if you can tell our listeners what do you do and how does it work?
Eva: That’s a great question. Wonderful question. Everybody I work with differently but I want to go back to the question you’re asking about energy and energy medicine first. Let’s kind of give a little bit more maybe understanding about that and credibility.
Genevieve: That’d be great.
Eva: Okay. Many people in our culture understand acupuncture now, right?
Dr. Lisa: Yes.
Genevieve: I do. As Dr. Lisa, I do acupuncture in my practice. I’m firm believer.
Eva: So when you’re working with those points, they’re note exactly physical points. There is much energetic points. Is that correct?
Genevieve: Yes. That’s right.
Eva: That’s right. So when somebody is blocked in a certain meridian, what you’re going after with those needles is to clear those points, correct? And those are different points. They can be linked to the kidney or to the heart or different ways of flow. The energy paths I’m working with are the chakras. The chakras are larger, the little points that Dr. Lisa is working with are actually chakras. They’re just smaller chakras but we have 7 main chakras. We have one that’s linked right around the meridian called the first chakra to our grounding. Second chakra is right around I’d say 2 or 3 fingers below the navel and it’s your creative center. It’s the second chakra and we’re going really … I’m just giving very very … a sketch here.
The third chakra is solar plexus and I call it your personal sun. How are you shining in the world and the fourth chakra is the heart chakra. How are you loving in the world? What is right loving? Unconditional loving? And the fifth chakra is your throat chakra. And the sixth chakra is the third eye. The seat of a different kind of seeing. Your intuition and everybody right now is really working on giving permission of strengthening intuition because that’s so important than healing. Right Dr. Lisa and Genevieve? You all know that and the seventh chakra and we’re just going to go through the seven is the crown chakra. It’s the way that you’re able to access spirit into your whole body.
Okay so that being said, if we start up to the chakras, the first three chakras are around the physical matter. The heart is what bridges matter to spirit. So I’m going to leave it there and it gets a lot more complicated but what we’re doing as energy healers is were actually cleaning the pathways and clearing the pathways to your original self. Not the self that’s been conditioned by society, not the self that’s been conditioned parentally or through the generations but what are those seeds? Those beautiful seeds that you yourself are carrying that are just ready to shine and bloom in the world. So that’s what we’re doing.
Genevieve: Well that’s fascinating because as you know we’re talking about new beginnings today on our first show, on our first Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and we’re all here starting something new. So how can people use energy work to shift their perspective and start something new?
Eva: Well one of the main locators of energy is the Earth. So one of the things that you can do, this is so simple as if you get up in the morning and let’s say it’s a beautiful morning and you can, if you can get your feet on the earth and just breath that energy from the earth all the way up through your ankles up through your knees, up through your thighs all the way up through your hips, all the way up through the whole skeletal system through the crown of your head, you’re already intentionalizing a clearing because that’s our connection. Our original connection. That’s something so simple. Our breathing. Getting up in the morning and just sitting quietly and breathing. Taking five, good, beautiful conscious breaths is already a way of clearing the system.
You don’t have to sit and meditate for 20 minutes although that’s a whole different kind of mediation but simply taking the moment to consciously clear is a way of starting the day and also strengthening your energy system. You have that daily just with breath. Minute you inhale and exhale it’s all about energy.
Genevieve: So tell us about PachaWorks and what you’re doing.
Eva: I’d say around good ten years ago PachaWorks has been now working and established and so I work privately with clients to come in and I work with emotional needs, physical needs, spiritual needs, working across the board. And I also have been running groups and I also have done some trainings in shamanism and so …
Genevieve: Tell me a little bit more about shamanism because I think that’s another one of those words that immediately people have pre-conceived notions about.
Eva: Well basically, shamanism is about being in connection. Connection with the planet, connection with your environment. It’s a classically … it was the one who could travel between worlds to access information that would be valuable to you in this world. I think the modern shamanic practitioner is so varied right now. Yes there are those with gifts who can travel between worlds and using the journey techniques so precisely to bring back exactly what’s needed in order for your puzzle to fit back into place so you have a more grounded, more whole way of looking at life. That does happen. A lot of us are doing a lot of hands-on work now too.
Genevieve: When you say travel between worlds, just what … for our listeners out there because that’s I think people will say really far out or inaccessible to them.
Eva: Exactly. Well I like to bring it back down a little. Can we ground it a little bit? Let’s ground it and I know other shamanic practitioners out there are going to shoot me but let’s ground it. I feel that one of … we talked about the lower world and I like to think of the lower world as how are your feet on the ground?
Genevieve: That makes sense.
Eva: How are you accessing your past? So we can travel down into that world. You can do it therapeutically for years in therapy, right? You can do it acupuncturally if that’s a word. You can also do it shamanically through talking with somebody. So it’s really gifting the client with another story that will serve them better than the old story they’ve been living. So that’s the lower world. That’s the lower world. The middle world or the world of heart in classic shamanistic terms is this world. The earth world. I like to look at it as middle world as the world that we were talking before. It’s how do you bridge loving. So if you clear out the lower stuff, if you clear out the gook and the lower stuff and you bring that up, already how you love is very different, right? Yes, so how you can access information is different.
So how are you living in the world? What are the gifts you’re bringing into the world? What are the gifts you’re allowing to come in to you? I mean that’s huge. What do we allow in so we can give out differently? So that’s the middle world of bridging. The upper world is how are you accessing your intuition? How are you accessing your beliefs? How are accessing the spirit however you decide to lift spirit because that’s very important. There’s so many people walking around in spiritual devastation. They don’t have anything to hold on to. Faith or whatever. Faith can be simply in a tree but it doesn’t have to be as big as oh my religion or what have you which is really good too for people. It feeds them.
But I think if we’re fed on all levels, if we’re fed from relationship level which is your heart level from how you’re grounding and how you’re feeding yourself which is the bottom level or the lower world level and how you’re accessing spirit and feeding you on the intuitional level then you’ll be healthy. That’s health. So that’s a really grounded way of looking at it. In shamanism, it’s very grounded.
Genevieve: Now also you mentioned you were doing some healing through movement, tell me about that.
Eva: Yes. Well Trisha Marshall who’s been an amazing journey dance person was just now in a very beginnings of seeing how we can use journey dance more intentionally as a clearing tool for people. So we actually can take one problem that maybe somebody’s working with and actually have them dancing it all the way through. Now dance, classically through the ages and the traditions, many traditions and mainly in the shamanic traditions has been a way of bringing in energy and also releasing energy. So it would be a perfect way of just bringing things down. In a way that a lot of people could understand it.
Genevieve: And you’re doing that at the studio?
Eva: No. Right now, we’re just working on this right now.
Genevieve: Okay.
Eva: We’ll keep you informed about that.
Genevieve: And then tell me about 108 Angels.
Eva: 108 Angels, such a wonderful project. The other hat I wear is I’m an artist and I wanted to infuse my healing more consciously into my art. So I created these grids of angels that individually each one of them is just beautiful and alive that when they come together, they make something new and I’m really seeding with 108 Angels right now that “individually were terrific but when we come together especially around one problem, we can solve it” and I don’t think enough of that is being fed into the collective right now. We’re so involved in all the disparity and fighting each other rather than saying hey, let’s take one issue, that’s what 108 Angels is about. Let’s take it and recreate something bigger than ourselves.
108 Angels is to be used in hospitals hopefully. This is what we’re seeding as a way of not only bringing a beautiful piece of art but also a way of helping that institution bring in funds because each angel in the grid can be sold off like you would sell off a brick in the building.
Genevieve: Why 108?
Eva: Oh 108 is a very magic number. It’s the number of both creation and destruction and transformation. There you go.
Dr. Lisa: Perfect. I love that. Birth and death and rebirth.
Eva: And it’s also the number of the beads in a Mullah.
Dr. Lisa: Very nice.
Genevieve: Thank you Eva for coming in today. It was so interesting to talk with you and thanks so much for joining us. There are so many people doing extraordinary things in our state. Find out who and where they are every month in the latest edition of Maine Magazine and each week here on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour. Our most recent edition is available at your local newsstand or contact us for subscription at MaineMag.com.